LOL. Question: how is a 15-minute video "debunking" TJ's trick titled "Debunking Tyshawn's NBD" where he mentions he should "clear his name" not about... TJ? Also, where is a 15-minute video about T-Funk's NBD? It's a video... about Tyshawn. I'm not implying anything else but to deny that is just... wow.
I have. And I watched the new one where he calls his win an "inside job" and bashes his "lack of creativity." We disagree, IMO, devoting this much time critiquing his skateboarding (for money) while accusing Thrasher of using content to make money is a head scratcher.
Respect your opinion but I think you're missing a lot of context there and comparing one dude to the Thrasher machine is apples and oranges. And giving Thrasher a blanket pass isn't the answer either IMO. Anyway appreciate both yours and GH's opinions and Louie was my pick for SOTY xoxoxo
I did after you mentioned it cuz apparently I have nothing better to do! Haha I still think GH explains his opinions really well and I agree with a lot of what he says. TJ is no doubt a next level amazing skater and already an icon but I don't think he should be immune to criticism. SOTY's just extra heightened this year cuz Nyjah put his life on the line for it and Louie and T Funk both had amazing years. Debating who won or dissecting a trick shouldn't automatically be considered toxic. It's nerdy as shit which nearly every skater is deep down so I love it
This would have a lot more power if 2 of the 3 runner ups Tyshawn was being compared to weren't people of color. its not like he was the only poc or even black skater who was a finalist
But you don’t build a case for that. None of your examples have anybody calling him lazy. In fact, I’d argue many of his supporters fetishize his blackness more than anything. Nyjah gets hated on for not being the “right” kind of black because he doesn’t wear the right clothes or skate in “raw streets of nyc.” Nobody said that about Milton when he won, nobody said it about Suciu either. I hardly think the “not my soty” meme is representative of the polls that show most people thought Nyjah deserved it
From the piece: "And, some people take it further by attacking the winner, and in Tyshawn’s case, they start to talk about his character in derogatory ways, sometimes with racial overtones, most commonly about his “work ethic” or even calling him “arrogant.” I don’t want to repost any of that but let’s dig into some opinions."
I didn't want the piece to be about calling anyone racist and I didn't call anyone racist. I didn't discuss the race of other noms for SOTY because this piece was about the reaction to TJ winning it.
But, yes, there are videos and comments calling out TJ's work ethic, in fact, a new video said he might need to be "more humble."
Those kind of comments sound like weird sports radio rants to me.
The problem with the Britney griner thing isn't her race or sexuality. It's that she was traded for an extremely dangerous man who wants to help the Russians in war. Stop being a race hustler and look at things objectively
The thing is it is subjective...objectively all of the finalists are elite level skateboarders who have overlapping but different skill sets and make very different aesthetic choices in what they do and how they present themselves in the world...I guess objectively t funk is probably the least “skilled” of the finalists yet in my mind his form of skating most aligns with my vision of its ideal...that said the hate TJ gets is ridic...no one else is nose blunting up the pyramid ledge or backside flipping a subway track...
I agree. The award is subjective, the hate, as you said, shouldn't be. Objectively, based on his pop alone, TJ is a generational talent. Even if T-Funk or Louie or whomever is someone's favorite skater on Planet Earth, the microscope TJ's under and the hate is lame.
Yeah the "rigged" thing is getting out of control. Glad Thrasher doesn't unveil the process. Same bunch who immediately voice outrage when anyone goes pro they don't agree with. What's up with the "robbed" mobs- always been there or social media born?
i don’t think gifted hater made his video to hate on tj specifically, i think he would’ve made it no
matter who it was, and he was hyped on the instagram post tyshawn made afterwards
LOL. Question: how is a 15-minute video "debunking" TJ's trick titled "Debunking Tyshawn's NBD" where he mentions he should "clear his name" not about... TJ? Also, where is a 15-minute video about T-Funk's NBD? It's a video... about Tyshawn. I'm not implying anything else but to deny that is just... wow.
If you watch the video it's extremely nerdy and very tame as far as hating on TJ
I have. And I watched the new one where he calls his win an "inside job" and bashes his "lack of creativity." We disagree, IMO, devoting this much time critiquing his skateboarding (for money) while accusing Thrasher of using content to make money is a head scratcher.
Respect your opinion but I think you're missing a lot of context there and comparing one dude to the Thrasher machine is apples and oranges. And giving Thrasher a blanket pass isn't the answer either IMO. Anyway appreciate both yours and GH's opinions and Louie was my pick for SOTY xoxoxo
Did you watch his new video about SOTY? Thanks for reading, commenting, and discussing—I appreciate it
I did after you mentioned it cuz apparently I have nothing better to do! Haha I still think GH explains his opinions really well and I agree with a lot of what he says. TJ is no doubt a next level amazing skater and already an icon but I don't think he should be immune to criticism. SOTY's just extra heightened this year cuz Nyjah put his life on the line for it and Louie and T Funk both had amazing years. Debating who won or dissecting a trick shouldn't automatically be considered toxic. It's nerdy as shit which nearly every skater is deep down so I love it
i didn’t say it was about tj i said it wasn’t HATING on tj
Yeah, reading comprehension is not a skaters strong suit usually lol
tfunks nbd had nothing debatable about if it was legit or not
Could you suck Tyshawn’s dick any harder, seriously?
Would you even care half as much if Nyjah had got it and got critiqued for it because he's too robotic, not stylish enough or skated too many rails?
Fyi, Tyshawn didn't debunk GH, if anything going back to redo the trick implies he had a point.
we all hate you...
This would have a lot more power if 2 of the 3 runner ups Tyshawn was being compared to weren't people of color. its not like he was the only poc or even black skater who was a finalist
Thanks for the feedback—I realize several POC were nominated but chose to focus on the way Tyshawn is being critiqued. Take care
But you don’t build a case for that. None of your examples have anybody calling him lazy. In fact, I’d argue many of his supporters fetishize his blackness more than anything. Nyjah gets hated on for not being the “right” kind of black because he doesn’t wear the right clothes or skate in “raw streets of nyc.” Nobody said that about Milton when he won, nobody said it about Suciu either. I hardly think the “not my soty” meme is representative of the polls that show most people thought Nyjah deserved it
From the piece: "And, some people take it further by attacking the winner, and in Tyshawn’s case, they start to talk about his character in derogatory ways, sometimes with racial overtones, most commonly about his “work ethic” or even calling him “arrogant.” I don’t want to repost any of that but let’s dig into some opinions."
I didn't want the piece to be about calling anyone racist and I didn't call anyone racist. I didn't discuss the race of other noms for SOTY because this piece was about the reaction to TJ winning it.
But, yes, there are videos and comments calling out TJ's work ethic, in fact, a new video said he might need to be "more humble."
Those kind of comments sound like weird sports radio rants to me.
The problem with the Britney griner thing isn't her race or sexuality. It's that she was traded for an extremely dangerous man who wants to help the Russians in war. Stop being a race hustler and look at things objectively
Plus watching nyjah skate makes me want to claw my eyes out..
The thing is it is subjective...objectively all of the finalists are elite level skateboarders who have overlapping but different skill sets and make very different aesthetic choices in what they do and how they present themselves in the world...I guess objectively t funk is probably the least “skilled” of the finalists yet in my mind his form of skating most aligns with my vision of its ideal...that said the hate TJ gets is ridic...no one else is nose blunting up the pyramid ledge or backside flipping a subway track...
I agree. The award is subjective, the hate, as you said, shouldn't be. Objectively, based on his pop alone, TJ is a generational talent. Even if T-Funk or Louie or whomever is someone's favorite skater on Planet Earth, the microscope TJ's under and the hate is lame.
Yeah the "rigged" thing is getting out of control. Glad Thrasher doesn't unveil the process. Same bunch who immediately voice outrage when anyone goes pro they don't agree with. What's up with the "robbed" mobs- always been there or social media born?